[Speaker 1]

I think this evening's discussion has demonstrated how badly capitalism sucks. It sucks so bad that even its defenders here and in the audience won't defend it. Okay, oh, you know, you want to take people, gunpoint and shove them out of your society because they don't want to be part of your society.

Gee, you don't want to be part of the society. That's your choice. Nobody's forcing you. You want to be part of it? Part of it. You don't want to be part of it? You're not part of it. This is like libertarians trying to create some totalitarian vision, trying to turn libertarianism into totalitarianism. You want to be part of a community? You're part of it.

You don't want to be part of a community? You're not part of it. What the hell is the problem? Okay, now, what we have been hearing is a lot of dancing around the question of where capitalism gets its start and what the whole system is based on. okay it is not the case that what we have is messed up property just because of feudal times and the state there is violence built in to the system okay for reasons that the state was involved but also private interests were involved in a big way landowners throwing people off the land okay these were not feudal lords um you know okay We've heard no condemnation from people who call themselves libertarians of this.

We've heard nothing from them about how to redress this situation. What we've heard is, oh, well, people born in the 1500s were dead, and there's all kinds of problems. And let's just forget about that and accept the status quo, the starting point right now, and given the starting point in which the vast majority of people have no property, you know, personal.

the the Would they be working for capitalists?

Or if you wanted to get something, would you have to not just hire them, would you have to cooperate with them in a community? You like capitalism, a lot of you, because you're on the top of the system. And you think, OK, let's find some way to make it seem that this is just. If people had their own individual property. They would not let themselves be exploited. Okay?