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What justifies taking a factory from its owner?

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[Speaker 1]

This question is for Dr. Kleiman. What gives you the right to take the means of production in the first place? What if the means of production have been produced after, let's say, the 15th century? How, let's say, a farmer that owns the land produces a factory, per se, and hires someone to work in it. What gives you the right to take that factory? If I were to create a factory, I would ask this question on an internet forum. I was allowed to have it, according to a Marxist, and own the factory as long as I didn't hire someone to work in it. But what gives you the right to take it away from me if someone starts working in it?

[Speaker 2]

How would you return individual property to the people who actually work, and thereby reverse the expropriation of their property?

[Speaker 1]

Where will we begin in the first place? If you're going to take the means of production, I don't really understand how can you do that? What gives you the right to do so? The farmers before didn't own that means of production in the first place.

[Speaker 2]

Yeah, they own the means of production. They belong to them. People had their own farms and worked. That was taken away from them. And the whole society and all the just acquisition of capital, so to speak, was built on that. So the point is to provide property to the vast majority of people once again so that they can live and work without having to sell themselves.

I'm not going to go into

[Speaker 1]

that.